Posts by Max Divergent

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How many deaths does the Bible record?

by LogCon in

num 11:1. .

num 11:33. .

num 14:35-45.

Max Divergent

God DOES NOT kill. Killing is done by those who CANNOT give that life back again. Jehovah does not kill, he simply takes away the lives of people who are disobedient but he has the ability to grant them life & restore life to them again if he wants to!

Do I remember right that there's no coming back from the second death?

Rev 21:8 (NWT): But as for the cowards and those without faith and those who are disgusting in their filth and murderer and the sexually immoral and those practicing spiritism and idolaters and all the liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This means the second death.”

That's pretty much everyone, so I'm not sure if that technicality is technically right.

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How many deaths does the Bible record?

by LogCon in

num 11:1. .

num 11:33. .

num 14:35-45.

Max Divergent

Apparently the bible also promises the deaths of pretty much everyone now living, roughly 7 billion.

And then, in 1000-ish years everyone who gets through that (or is resurected or born or whatever, ie: a lot of people) but dosn't like the rules in Paradise gets done in too. If Paradise is run along JW rules, then probably a lot of people won't like Paradise: so lots more killings to come then.

Not that they're human, but I think there's also something about the demons being burned alive at the same time - there might be a lot of them.

Nothing like a good mass killing to show the Supreme Being to be the Almighty.

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Australian cult leader - A former Jehovah's Witness

by Hidden-Window in

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a documentary states that this cult leader, who claims to be jesus, used to be "a jehovah's witness pastor".

i guess they mean elder.

does anybody from australia recognize him?.

Max Divergent

He was called John Miller when he was a JW. He was the School Overseer in Port Augusta in South Australia last time I met him which might be 20 years ago.

John had some personal issues which led to divorce and DF, as I recall. He was always a friendly, smart guy. He repaired computers and pin ball machines from memory. He was quite popular and friendly.

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AAWA activists burst into a Kingdom Hall in Kent!

by raymond frantz in

aawa activists burst into a kingdom hall in kent.

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Max Divergent

In my view that was a disgrace.

At least there was a modicum of good humour and courtesy shown at times, but the overall act was aggressive, intrusive, disrespectful, selfish and annoying. Better judgement would have left it at that: but then they publish a video of their actions. It’s poor judgement to show a video of yourself acting boorishly.

In contrast, the JWs were calm, reasonable and firmly held up their rights.

JWs right. Apostates wrong. That’s not good.

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New XJW song video: Wish You'd Disappear: The great turnaround

by Inkvoid in

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a new video for a reworded version of pink floyd's 'wish you were here':.

'david' gets bad news at the kingdom hall: he's in trouble.

we see him wince as the judicial committee's decision to disfellowship him is finally announced.

Max Divergent

Well worth watching, especially the Mother song.

Good work.

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The EBOLA conspiracy...

by gopher123 in

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friends

hey guys.

there has been a ton of illuminati hollywood mind control pre-programming about this virus outbreak before it actually happened.

conspiracy people of the world... unite.. .

Max Divergent

Evidence 1 = The U.S. government has a patent on EBOLA

Evidence 2 = There's an EBOLA outbreak in the U.S

So what? Having a patent and having an outbreak (if there is one) are different things. They have nothing directly to do with each other. It's not even a conspiracy theory, it's random factoids mashed together.

What are you getting at?

That USG having a patent on Ebola makes an 'outbreak' of Ebola in the US good for USG? Huh?

Profit? Not even a US court would make a person infected with Ebola pay royalties to USG for their use of Ebola, whether they're in the US or not.

You're missing a step (or a hundred) if you want to make a credible conspiracy theory (whatever that might mean) out of this.

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New Watchtower video on "real friends"

by cedars in

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5schopnecog.

it's difficult to imagine how this video could be more disingenuous and hypocritical.

cedars.

Max Divergent

It has nothing whatever to do with JW's, and it's a good video. It's just that it's irrelevent to the Watchtower.

Just at the end it says somthing like "choose your friends wisely, choose real friends" then goes to the JW.org graphic. That was the only jarring note, it's like a website, the JW website, is a real friend.

The e=mc2 graphic was funny: as if physics education is encouraged by JWs! LOL!

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No bibles at any kingdomhalls, strong rumors the annual meeting is regarding the bible...

by EndofMysteries in

from relatives and contacts in 2 states, there have been no bibles available for a couple months.

one person mentioned to me as well about supposed quotes in the magazines from other bibles.

rumors are that they will announce a new bible, or possibly tell everyone to buy a bible from another place that they approve of.

Max Divergent

The problem with paper bibles is they stay the same forever.

But an online bible can be kept up-to-date so they can make sure it reflects God's Word in real time.

As God speaks, His Word can adjust on tablets in KHs around the world!

And the brothers can get extra help to understand the import of scriptures, so the 'abstain from blood' bit could have an animated gif of someone refusing a transfusion so readers can have no doubt of what Paul meant.

- The elders' version of the bible can have links to the elders' book so they don't forget all the extra secret bits.

- The Sister's bible will have the verses about subjection set to glow red.

- MS's will hack their version so lists of jobs that need to be done at the back of the hall will pop up at timed intervals though the meeting, especially during the boring talks.

- Kids' editions will have real explosions for Armageddon and HD graphics for the birds picking out eyes of bad children.

So, electronic bibles would be a very fine provision of the faithful slave ... see them Write God's Word Daily!

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Did a householder at the door ever cause you doubts

by perfect1 in

recently on a saturday morning there was a knock on my door.

two ladies asked me if i was familiar with the jws.

i said: yes unfortunatley.

Max Divergent

Yep. But only after I was ready to hear it.

He must have been an academic as he lived near a university campus and the way he talked. I had some silly Watchtower about God existing and I rattled off the standard spiel from the usual scriptures. He said things like, 'Oh, the onlological argument...' and went on to explain the origin and faults of each argument I was putting. What that did was tell me the WTS had nothing more than the theologians and were nothing special. I was just recycling old church rubbish in another guise.

It only made an impact as they were the right words at the right time to the right person.

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AGM 5 OCTOBER 2013 (UNOFFICIAL RUMORS)

by WatchTower87 in

- 23 day to go .. annual meeting unofficial rumors.

- new bible.

- new nwt (revision).

Max Divergent

I heard (in my heart) the new bible changes may include:

Jesus being omitted and the 'Jesus Class' who represeted the Governing Body / FDS in the first century and up to the commencement fo the 'Jehovah Class'.
The 'Jehovah Class' would includes all past Presidents of the WTS and faithful members of the GB. Other faithfuls since the Jesus Class was completed (possibly in 1874, although there was a movement toward 1914 or 1925) may have been included too.
The bible becoming 168-pages long, hard cover and illustrated. The main bit would be 32-pages and that is all most publishers will need. A 16-page version will be available for the public. New versions come out fortnightly.
A study edition of the bible would be available too. It's online and adjusts as required.

I understand none of this will be explicit in the new bible. Rather, the bible will include all the favorite scriptures and some sections that require the reader to use discenment. Discernment will be provided in the Watchtower.